Combat Sports??

[fudgeflaps]

The Audley thread inspired this.

I do a fair bit of sport...... running, weights, swimming, footie, golf, snooker.......

.....and the ladies! Ooooh. Suits you.

But on the Mean Streets of Glasgow there may be call for having some extra skills- in 12 years of socialising, i got my first mugging/scrape back in June there.

So I've one a bit of investigating. Boxing looks good- kickboxing even more so; both combine hard workouts with traditional combat skills with good personal discipline thrown into the mix. Kickboxing is as nasty as; anything goes!!

However, there is Kung-Fu: my acupuncturist recommends this. Not only is it an amazing Art, with mindblowing skills acquired on mastery, but there are also emotional components to the sport: philosophy, and 'a way of living'; 'chi' and all that.

What would you guys do? Yeah, joke away to your hearts content, but give me some serious input too- you know I love ya!!

One final thought. I dumped the girlfriend the other day. So, ladies:

I am the sophisticated, funny one on BGAFD.

A suave, confident, Virgoan, I love romantic walks and binge drinking. Pics to my usual addy.......

!wink!

[Jacques]

I've been playing with Thai Boxing and Brazilian JuiJitsu for the past few years. Before that I did Kuk Sool Won.

For upright fighting nothing beats Thai Boxing at all three ranges. Once you are on the ground you need the BJJ - there is nothing better than Gracie Jui Jitsu.

However if you can find a Jeet Kune Do School (particularly one that teaches 'Concepts') you'll find that you'll do both of these and some Silat, Karate, Kung Fu and others.


For BJJ in Glasgow:

Celtic Warriors
Contact: Paul McVeigh
3C Southpark Terrace
Glasgow, Scotland G12 8LG
Email: maccavelli39@hotmail.com

Affiliated to Karl Tanswell, so seriously good shit!!!

For Thai in Glasgow:

[colonel]

fudgeflaps- the mild mannered janitor??

Could be!!!!!

[Jacques]

Shamrock vs Gracie ....... one of the oldest family rivalries in modern martial arts.

Either will fuck up junkie chavs if were honest.

[Sam Slater]

I started kickboxing aged seven but moved onto Muay Thai at twelve. Trained 4-5 times a week for twelve years but gave it up when I was 24 due to work commitments.

Did loads of exhibitions and had 6 semi-pro fights at welter and super-welterweight. Used to drink tons of water before weigh-ins so I could fight the light-middle weights and won all 6 fights by stoppage. (5x2min rounds).

Used to have other martial artists train in our gym over the years and Muay Thai is easily the one to go for for both fitness, flexibility and power. Boxing is good for a brawl on the street but once on the deck they're fucked.

However I would never fuck around with a jujitsu/judo/wrestler in an enclosed space. In a car park I'd feel more comfortable but in a pub with little space they'd take you down and snap ligaments before you could put your pint down. Not nice.

At least with Muay Thai, the experience of using knees can stop a take down, and elbows in grappling is something a boxer/other martial artist may not be efficient with.

I like Muay Thai, but I'm obviously biased. Maybe a mix of Muay Thai and jujitsu is best and forget everything else unless you're interested in just the spiritual side and showing off fancy moves to your mates. Kicking someone in the head with your foot is going to break your foot before their skull, think about it. In Muay Thai you're wrapping your shin bone around someone's head and that's a skull crusher if you've the power. Even blocking with their arm will just leave them with a broken arm if they don't block right.

I once got into a scuffle with a kung-fu type in a nightclub when I was about 19. I leg kicked his knee once and he was crippled. Once you've felt the power of a good leg kick or bandi then spinning 'tae-kwon-do kicks' make you laugh.

The best bit of advice I can give anybody in self defence is THE most important factor ever. AGGRESSION. You can learn and perfect every fucking move in every fucking art, but if you're a timid pussycat then just run. (in fact running is always the best option anyway.) In 95% of street fights I've seen, the most aggressive person ALWAYS won, full stop.

Jesus I've swore more in this thread than all others put together. I thought I'd left my fucking youth behind me. Crazy!

[fudgeflaps]

Awesome responses- I thought this would bring out an alpha-male testsosterone-fuelled reaction. !wink!

Thanks, Jacques, for the Glasgow link.

Sam- excellent point well made. Often it is not relative skill and strength that determines a confontational outcome- but that 'up top'- aggression. There are tons of Glasgow hard men who are nowt to look at- but are complete psychos who will take the face off of you in the blink of an eye. Aggression is key albeit taking different forms in all sports; snooker- attack the balls, go for it, split the reds off the black (Ronnie, Alex Higgins, Hendry); footie- don't shirk that challenge, commit 100% at all costs (Rooney, Vieira in his prime, Georgie Best took a right doing from the 60s/70s hardmen in his day); tennis, go for your shots (Andy Murray, what a guy!).

Ta.

[Sam Slater]

It will explain real fucking aggression.

Knees! Knees! Knees! Knees! Knees! Knees!

I particularly love elbows. They're neat.



Muay Thai v Kung Fu (though a bit crap)



Muay Thai v Tae Kwon Do



and again but a Tae Kwon Do win!! (notice the aggressor!)



and again (fucking love this one. watch the Muay Thai fighters indifference to all the spinning kicks....great!....more 'flicks' than kicks though)

Boxing v Muay Thai (no contest on the outside, and even on the inside grappling a knees make it an easy victory)



Good kick here



aghhhh padwork.......

[Jacques]

Also checkout the 'Choke' DVD.

[fudgeflaps]

Sam!!

Calm down.

Cup of tea. Deep breaths. Self-hypnosis!!

!happy!

I'm gonna watch the news tonight, where some previously mild-mannered guy in England has went on a spree decking people shouting "Knees, elbows, Knees, heeheeeheee" as his mantra.

!wink!