Roman Catholics getting their knickers in a twist

[Arginald Valleywater]

Not an RC but totally agree gay couples shouldn't adopt. 95% of Paedos are men, usually gay, so a bit like giving an alcoholic a pub to run, too much temptation.

[mrmcfister]

The issue is about discrimination.You either agree to discriminate or not..it is right that the govt view is that partly disciminating is not OK.If these agencies dont want public funds then fine but if they do they will have to comply with the new law.Personally I would prefer kids to be adopted by a mum and dad ..but to discriminate against gays per se as the catholics want must be wrong

[Sam Slater]

[quote]95% of Paedos are men, usually gay,[/quote]

I don't think that's true.

[James not Bond]

There seems to be a few 'macho' men beating their chests and shouting from the rooftops about samesex couples adopting.

Instantly the assumption has been made that two men should not adopt.
What about 2 girls in a civil partnership adopting?

Also, how many guys that frequent this site buy buttered scones on a Wednesday for their tea?

Arginald Valleywater. Your statement '95% of Paedos are men, usually gay'.
What report did you read this in, or did you shut make it up in an attempt to come across as being knowledgeable.

[Trumpton]

95% of same sex partners who wish to adopt are female. I have no problem with that. ALL religions have a blind hatred of gays - whilst at the same time attempting to cover up homosexuality within their "communities".

[mrmcfister]

I fucking love this forum..respect to you lot .......I love to hear your views whether I agree or not...

[Sam Slater]

[quote]What a lot of nonsense, so you think that a man a woman and a child is a recipee for 'normality'.[/quote]

Normality? I wouldn't say it's normality no. I would say it's more natural. Whether you're religious or not, whether you're an Inuit or Aboriginal bushman, children are usually brought up by a mother with the help of a father and grandparents. So you can take away, culture, religion and tradition for this one, and just say it's nature.

[quote]With the divorce rate at 50% I don't think the straights of this world can exactly crow about the 'normality' and 'stability' of their relationships.[/quote]

I didn't 'crow' about normality and stability either. 'Stability' of a child's mind brought up by a gay couple is something different, and also something we cannot really test. Which children do you want to pick as the guinea pigs?

As for the divorce rate, I'd guess 'gay break-ups' is more like 90%! I've known about 10-20 gay friends in my life and none of them have had a relationship longer than 2 years. Gay (men at least) just don't stay together for very long. Polygamy is the game on the gay scene.

[quote]The underlying prejudice is that people think that being brought up by gays will contaminate children and that homosexuals are de facto paedophiles.[/quote]

You may be right. Some people may think these things. I'm not one of them, and even stated that some gay parents would do a better job than a lot of straight couples.

[quote]Speak to people who spent time in care or in boarding schools for that matter and you won't hear a lot of nice stories about it.[/quote]

Hey, who said care was ok? My whole post was about the child's point of view. I never said care was a better option, nor did I say gay parents would be bad/pervy parents. Most gays are more caring and thoughtful than straight guys anyway.

My worry is that care/adoption is bad enough, but what of the psychological affects of being brought up by a same-sex couple? Are there other countries that have this law, with kids who grew up in an environment like that? Maybe look at the long term affects? See if they were happy, or resentful that they were put in a situation they never asked for? Whether it affected their adult life in any way? Their adult relationships? Did it make them shy away from others? Become more introverted?

I'm not judging either way, though I admit my assumptions are slightly against it. We shouldn't be putting children into such a unique environment. Care homes may be bad, but kids grow up with similar kids in the same situation. With a gay couple adopting, that child may be the only one for miles around. One kid totally different from other kids.

It's something to think about carefully before any decisions are made, I feel.