650,000 dead in Iraq

[diplodocus]

!laugh!

[strictlybroadband]

Sam Slater wrote:

> How about - 'Londoners (who tend to be more clued-up).'

That's not a cliche - it's a provocative remark.

> or - 'Whites are attacking Muslims, not the other way around'

That was a simple fact about the recent Windsor events.

> or - 'Weston-Super-Mare chapter of the klu-klux-clan'

That was a hilarious piece of satire - not a cliche though.

> or the dumbest - 'America has called more Iraqis than Saddam
> ever did.'

That's a typo.

> Thats just from this thread SBB. It seems we all 'generalize' &
> deal out stupid assumptions hey?

You don't seem to know what a cliche or a generalisation is.

[diplodocus]

he's not paranoid, just more clued up - he's a londener don't you know

[strictlybroadband]

crofter wrote:

> Not sure what skin colour or religion has to do with it
> Strictlybroadband, I was basing my comment on what I think of
> the majority of Iraqis and not their religious ideas or
> beliefs, why must you always raise the idea that the west hates
> muslims on these forums ... you seem very paranoid for some
> reason??

I didn't say the West hates Muslims. You clearly do though. Do you confuse yourself with the entire western world?

[crofter]

Well I am pretty sure if you took a look at your posts over the last 6 or so months you might have given the impression that YOU think the west DOES hate muslims ... please accept my apologies I must have mixed you up with someone else.!wink!

[Sam Slater]

[quote]How about - 'Londoners (who tend to be more clued-up).'

That's not a cliche - it's a provocative remark.[/quote]

Aren't cliches, 'stereotypical opinions'? I'd say it's stereotypical of Londoners to think they're more clued up & intelligent than the rest of Britain, thus it's a cliche. (and you're being provocative now?)

[quote]or - 'Whites are attacking Muslims, not the other way around'

That was a simple fact about the recent Windsor events.[/quote]

You didn't say that, nor do you know for definate that no whites have been attacked by Muslims in Windsor.

[quote]or - 'Weston-Super-Mare chapter of the klu-klux-clan'

That was a hilarious piece of satire - not a cliche though.[/quote]

I'll give you this one. It's not really hilarious, insinuating that someone has ties with the klu-klux-clan, on a thread regarding people of ethnic culture. You've just complained about being called 'muslim lover'.

[quote]r the dumbest - 'America has called more Iraqis than Saddam
> ever did.'

That's a typo.[/quote]

I know it's a typo, and I know you meant to say 'killed'. It's a stupid assumption, and most probably wrong.......who knows.......it may also be a cliche for the 'anti-america' groups. An 'internal' cliche, if you like.

[quote]You don't seem to know what a cliche or a generalisation is.[/quote]

Damnit! To be fair, I'm just a northern monkey......if only I was from London hey SBB? In my humble defense, I never said they were cliches anyway, just generalizations, and stupid assumptions. ie. You assume Londoners are more clued up, you assume the US has killed more Iraqis than Saddam, and you assume that no whites have been attacked in Windsor, by Muslims.

[Robches]

>The technology has come on a LONG way. Also, we weren't occupying Germany, we were only bombing them. Put it this way - the Yanks killed 4-6 million people in SE Asia in the 1970s, so they're behind target at the moment.

I think a 1000 lb bomb is still a 1000 lb bomb, and the fact is that for three years the RAF sent thousands of bombers over to Germany with the express purpose of killing as many Germans as possible, during which time they killed 500,000. For that reason, I find it highly unlikely that 650,000 Iraqis have been killed in a similar three year period. I'm sure this survey was conducted by clever people, but after you conduct such an exercise you have to use a bit of common sense, and consider if the results seem reasonable, and these do not.

[Flat_Eric]

strictlybroadband wrote:

>>>


There are plenty of cliches from the political Left as well, me old cocksparra:

BIGOTED: Used to describe those who refuse to view all lifestyles, religions, and cultures etc as being equally "valid" - except for Christian, Anglo-Saxon societies and values which are, of course, less "valid".

DISPROPORTIONATE (foreign affairs): Describes any and every act by the USA or Israel.

DIVERSITY: Creating a workforce based on gender, race and sexual orientation rather than on its skills or aptitude

EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES: Describes the desire to have a workforce resemble - in percentage terms based on race, gender and sexual orientation - the population that it comes from, rather than one best suited to doing the job in question. See 'diversity'.

EGALITARIAN: ?If I can?t have one, then neither can you?. In other words, shared misery is much better than unevenly scattered joy.

HUMAN RIGHTS: Using the legal system to pursue political ends.

INCLUSIVE: Means 'lower entry standards until anyone can get in'.

IMPARTIAL (media): The balance achieved by attacking the Tories for being Conservative and NuLabour for being insufficiently Lefty.

INTOLERANCE: Intolerance can only committed against certain defined groups of people. These obviously do not include Americans, Israelis, the middle class, white people, rural people and Christians.

ISLAMOPHOBIC: Anyone who worries about their transport being blown up on the way to work.

ISRAEL: A country the size of Wales, with 5m inhabitants, that along with ourselves and the USA is entirely responsible for any and all delinquent Islamist behaviour the world over.

JUDGEMENTAL: Whereby we are to be considered bigoted for suggesting that maybe some forms of behaviour are more anti-social and immoral than others.

LEGITIMATE GRIEVANCES (in foreign affairs): Justification for why deranged Islamists aren't themselves actually responsible for murdering people in the developed world - because in the Lefty view it's all the fault of the UK, USA and Israel (of course)!!

MULTI-CULTURAL: All culture is "valid", unless it's white Anglo-Saxon Christian. Usually to be 'celebrated' and always found to be 'vibrant'.

NAZI: Israeli.

NeoCON: Describes any non-Lefty views and people who Lefties don?t like.

PALESTINIANS: Archetypal 'victims' no matter how many teenagers they murder in bars and fast food outlets. Never to blame for anything they do - or things that get done in their name - because of the aforementioned ?legitimate grievances?.

POSITIVE DISCRIMINATION: Discrimination is evil unless it's against white, heterosexual males - in which case it's a good, "positive" thing.

PROGRESSIve: Describes repackaged Lefty ideas generally first thought up around 60 years ago ? that still don't work.

AL QAEDA: Muslim militants who for some reason or other continue to kill far more Muslims than people of any other faith - yet it's still not their fault (it's an act of desperation to which they're driven by those evil Americans and Israelis).

RACIST: Much, much worse than being violent, thoughtless or unkind. In fact, easily the worst crime ever conceived.

RELIGION: (a) Christianity: irrational, dangerous belief that material things may not be the principal motive behind human behaviour. (b) Judaism: most Israelis are Jewish, so probably 'intolerant'. (c) Islam: always needs to be 'understood' and / or 'tolerated'.

SOUTH AFRICA: A global showcase of Lefty policies - with a one-party state, some of the worst crime levels in the world, tragic AIDS mortality and a moribund economy.

STEROTYPE: Any attempt to unfavourably describe the general characteristics of a group favoured by Lefties (such as Muslims).

STIGMATISE: What we do to anti-social people if we ask them to stop behaving badly.

TERRORIST: No such thing. Only people suffering from ?legitimate grievances?.

UNDERSTANDING: The best method (as opposed to punishment) for dealing with crime and delinquency

VICTIM: see ?Terrorist?, ?Palestinians? and 'Legitimate grievances'.

[mart]

Do you mean "inciteful" or "insightful"?
Not that you are interested in any constructive criticism from me since you are a member of the gang who always dismisses it as "negative".
That is, something that questions what you state.

Mart

[Pervert]

Errm, that's what it means.