Are Studs becoming redundant?

[Jo Juggs]

For me personally I would rather work with a normal looking guy than a pretty boy.

There is nothing worse than seeing some stud who loves himself and treats the girl like a piece of meat and has no feelings. The chemistry has to be there in some form.

For me studs like Willie Shafter, Steve Hooper, Paul Jones & G are what I like. But then again I am 42 now and have no interest in working with anyone under 25, so I guess for the younger girls they want to work with the younger studs. I guess producers decide on what would look good for the scene they want to achieve and take it from there.

Just my personal opinion lol

Love
Jo Juggs
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[one eyed jack]

Jim you'll always see enthusiasm on my face. In fact Im terrible. I'll be drooling so best notot hire me and oi!!! to the firefly chap saying Jims the only one speaking sense on this thread. I've read some decent posts on this thread so far by all concerned!...Well, except yours that is !happy!

[Ron T. Storm]

Dildos are cheAper and more reliable according to my Misses so yep they are now redundant.

[frankthring]

This is an interesting blog so allow me to share my five pennnies of knowledge, especially since Mr Slip seems to think - quite wrongly - that
Private in some way created the "gorilla" stud as he likes to call them. As
I worked with Private from its first videos I know what I am talking about.
Private began with a clear concept of beautiful young girls and good
looking young men. "Old" of either sex (and I mean above 30) was out ! Personally I had always been impressed with the Mario Salieri kinda Italian concept of mixing all ages and types in his films but Berth Milton Jnr was a
young guy and he wanted his movies peopled with pretty young things. The
man who pays the piper calls the tune, as the saying goes, so Berth got his
young ones.
Many of the studs that peopled those movies - David Perry and Frank Gun
being excellent examples - have grown old with porn. That is not to say they are not good studs (they are) but both men are now 40+ The same is true of literally all others here in Hungary where I truly do not know of any
good guys - or hardly any at all - under the age of 30. We have no cougars or well-endowed young hunks at all !!
I am afraid Mr Slip - who loves to exaggerate - paints a picture of Private movies peopled with muscle boys. This was never the case. The truth is that the kind of young men who do porn tend to be proud of their abilities and are keen to look after their bodies....so many go to gyms. In fact a well
toned body looks great on camera but its also fair to say that some boys overdo it in the same way that some girls cannot stop having boob jobs !
Having lived and worked 7 years in Hollywood you see far more of the
muscle boys there and I think Mr Slip is getting a tad confused. In fact 2 of the best (or worst) examples of the kind of stud he complains about are/were British....namely Steve Hooper and Tony di Sergio. I can only think of 2-3 other european boys who were so obsessed about their bodies as these two adonises !!
There is a splendid perversity on-camera in seeing a stunning looking girl fuck an ordinary looking bloke and God knows Mr Slip has been a lucky bugger in that regard ! But the Americans - who developed porn as we know it today - have a cult of the body beautiful and it will not change ! In fact on my shoots for Brazzers I have found lots of bitchy bloggers always more interested in the studs than the girls, a result, I assume, of the vast gay/bi group of men who look at heterosexual sex on the web. They seem interested only in beautiful young guys fucking girls.....and so it goes on.

[MissJennyBadeau]

yes! any girls on here watch porn?? I do ! I would like to see his face sometimes!!
And get to know him more! Someone sexy who can talk dirty who isnt too big headed!!

[jimslip]

Mr Thring, I am only talking from the point of view of having viewed dozens and dozens of Private films in the 1990's and every single one seemed to feature a bunch of swaggering, bandana wearing uber studs, all sporting wrap around shades and at best being monosyllabic in their dialogue!

This merry band, always played the same characters:

Pool attendants
Pizza delivery men
Drug dealers
Gym instructors
Aimless oafs swaggering around on beaches in search of the inevitable Eurobabe who'd be lying alone on a towel on a mile of beach.

Their dialogue normally consisted of the following:

"Hello bebe, I am a ............(insert one of the above) vood you like a DP mit mein friends?
Ya das ist good, but first vee must eat pizza! I vill phone my friend, he makes and delivers zee pizza and he also knows a pool attendent, he vill bring him for zee dp. Vot a stupit silly man I am, I also have a friend who is drug dealer and he has friend who is gym instructor, zo after pizza vee can all verk out mit zee weights and show you our rippling bodies before vee all DP you, ya???"

Eurobabe: "Ya das ist good, I wish most fondly to be DP'd by you and your friends and I also vish to make mit a pizza mit all zee toppings, before the acting of zee DP! I am most anxious for zee sexy time to commence! let us go, SCHNELL! SCHNELL!"

Later on all the cast: "ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah"ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aahooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah"ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah!.....COFFEE BREAK.

ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aahooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah"ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aah ooh aah ooh ooh...

I am making mit zee orgasm!!!!!ooh aah ooh aah, ooh aah ooh aaaaaah!

Thankyou, I am better now, I must return to the beach for more of the sunbathing, danke mein Herren!" !wink!

[Dave Wells]

Put that in any language you like too ! It is exactly why porn of it's 'ilk' is dying and 'reality' (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean) or 'gonzo' is now the norm.

[firefly]

Its not studs but female models who are finding it hard. People want real girls not pumped up, botoxed supertanned girls. Why because they may dream about them but they know they will never get them. However the girl next door, average looking girl thy can relate to. How do I know because I am doing a large amount of work for private buyers who want this.

[demetri]

I've never really bought into this whole "stick an average or ugly looking guy in front of the camera so that the man on the street can relate" argument. This is not only insulting to the male audience who don't necessarily look like they are related to Shrek but also completely ignores the tastes of the female and gay/ bi consumer.

If this was really a genuine argument then why not stick a bunch of dog ugly birds in the mix too so the female fans who may not be blessed with the best looks can relate to the scene?!

Back in the day where a splash of brut and clean pants were considered the height of male grooming I guess the male audience were not so discerning about the looks of their studs. The landscape has however changed and in these metro times guys are taking more care with their appearance and is therefore reflected in the type of new male talent coming onto the scene. I for one applaud it. If having to pick between two equally good performers for a shoot I would go for the better looking one everytime ... Why wouldn't I? Better looks makes for a better looking scene.

As Frankthring says guys can go over the top with the whole body building thing just like women can with surgery, but this doesn't mean that a guy that works out and takes care of his appearance because he wants to look his best for himself, his co-star and ultimately his audience should be condemmed as some kind of self loving freak. Besides which in all the years I've been performing for the likes of Private and Dorcel I've rarely come across the Roid boy look, just attractive male and female models. And quite rightly too, this is supposed to be the glamour industry after all.

With regard to Jims comment about many women realting to a guys sense of humour over his physique... Thats all very well, but unless the stud is gonna pull of a bit of stand up before the sex starts I think this particular kind of viewer may well be watching the wrong kind of material.

[frankthring]

Dera Mr Slip, I appreciate you are an amazing director of vast inventiveness and a consumate stud to boot ! But its very easy to mock those now somewhat dated video mag scs without having had to direct
not one but vast numbers under pressure. Usually 3 were shot in a day.
One has arrived on a beach with a crew and a boy and girl who a) do not
speak any english or b) cannot even converse together.....As a Company,
Private believed that fresh faces (the girls were always new, young and
stunning) along with strong, often anal sex, was their formula.
It clearly is not your cup of tea....it has indeed dated....but it was a very
successful formula for several years....
Moving away from your gorillas for a moment to story concepts, (which had
to be kept very simple), just about every idea was tried at some time or other in the 300-600 scs used in the Private video mags. Again, its very
easy to mock.
They became tired, formulaic and the story ideas silly and dull (though not
all by any means).
Personally most reality porn makes me vomit being neither really reality and with crap production values.
One man`s porn is another man`s poison !