Attn: Dave Wells, Photo-taker and Emprex

[bigAl]

Marty,

Don't get upset about this, it's really not your issue.

I've come to realise over these past few months that this is an extremely internally focussed industry that attempts to establish its own "political" boundaries. Woe betide anyone who attempts to cross the line! There are some genuine exceptions to the rule, but outsiders are rarely made to feel welcome ..... irrespective of their true motivations.

More than happy to share my experiences with you off-line.

[bigAl]

Marty,

Don't get upset about this, it's really not your issue.

I've come to realise over these past few months that this is an extremely internally focussed industry that attempts to establish its own "political" boundaries. Woe betide anyone who attempts to cross the line! There are some genuine exceptions to the rule, but outsiders are rarely made to feel welcome ..... irrespective of their true motivations.

More than happy to share my experiences with you off-line.

[Joe A]

Big Al

Your conception of the industry is so wrong....

I can say that a lot of the industry are fed up with the moaning and agressive posts made here, and now a lot of people who would reply won't. They just lurk.

There are two well known models I know. One now posts only when necessary, and another is frightened to post having seen the attacks made on other girls. How many are there that I don't know about. Even the lovely new model Louiza Ray was personally attacked recently. Try making positive posts so the girls feel welcome and maybe a few more may post again

This used to be a really warm and friendly forum with hardly an attack on anyone but over the last few months.. It seems to be attack, attack, attack or moan, moan, moan. How many threads are still going to be started complaining about the lack of full on penetration shots on LiveXXX, TVX and SportXXX. This has been answered every time, yet some still carry on as if the legal reasons mean nothing to them.

The admin do a fanastic job running this forum, and I know I speak on behalf of many in the industry when I say how much we appreciate all they do, so why don't you the consumers, show them some respect as well

[Joe A]

Marty

Just email me.. You might be surprised and smile at what I want to say to you.. My last post wasn't against you by the way as I named Big Al. It also reflects my thoughts about a few others here and they know who they are

[mart]

I've noticed that a lot of the posts are from newbies. Thats not wrong in itself but it seems as if many of them don't bother to read earlier posts (or current posts for that matter) and so we get some ancient topics being endlessly recycled.

Mart

[Jacques]

Joe A wrote:

> How many threads
> are still going to be started complaining about the lack of
> full on penetration shots on LiveXXX, TVX and SportXXX. This
> has been answered every time, yet some still carry on as if the
> legal reasons mean nothing to them.

I don't want to hijack this thread, but don't you think that people deserve to be told the truth? You have my email addy if you wish to discuss off the board.

[Nurse Nicky]

Hi Marty

I thought your original post was a very interesting one. I couldn't understand why it created such hostility.

If I may I would like to put my view on the problems in the UK porn industry. I feel the 'golden goose' that was the internet has now been well and truly shot, plucked, and roasted.

Now there is so much porn on tap with just the click of your computer mouse, the punters can now see that most of the content in the films being produced is much the same. If a guys feeling horny, he now wants to get his rocks off there and then. Society has changed, everyone wants instant gratification. Pay sites with instant downloads, or live feeds have moved in to cater for this new market, but there are thousands of them, and only so many punters prepared to pay for their services.

I have no idea where it will all end, but I'm certain that the people who got there act together at the very start of the internet boom have made there money, and are now quite happy to be out of it, or just to plod along. I know from my own experience with my first members site that my webmaster and I made more money in our first year of operation than we did in the next three years put together.

Amateur stuff is now way out selling professional productions. Talking to a few friends who go in for the more fetish related stuff it seems this area is doing better that the mainstream, although there share of the market starts from a fairly low kick off point anyway.

I think the next couple of years could be quite interesting, there is bound to be someone with some imagination that takes the industry by storm. I suppose it's just a question of watch this space.